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GRRM Avoids Stereotypes(!)

Liotta
Yep, that's right.  I'm back from vacation (not from this....from my real job.  You know, the one that pays me.)  And I got to take a gander at this one:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/books/7322988/GoTs-Martin-avoids-stereotypes

I could go on and on about the stereotypes that permeate every nook and cranny of ASOIAF, but that's well-worn territory.  To me, here's the Key Quote: "I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off," [GRRM] said.

"To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it's madness. Ultimately, in the history of world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much."

George, allow me to clue you in: the reason why people write letters about it is because the way you describe penises and vaginas is often unbelievably creepy and unnecessary.  The fights and battles in ASOIAF are often necessary occurrences, inevitable results of conflicts, backstabbings, politics, and the like.  And I would argue that the gory descriptions are often necessary, especially when it comes to the lives & deaths of major characters.  In your world of "Don't count them dead until you see the head," it's actually necessary for your readers to be given a definitive description that makes us say, "Okay, so that dude's gone."  And hell, a lot of the time, that doesn't even matter, since now everybody can just rise from the dead if they want.

But sex?  We get it, it's a part of the world, and the characters have to have it.  And it causes problems in numerous ways.  But if you can explain to me exactly why a reader would need a "just as detailed" description of a penis entering a vagina, then by all means, make your case.  To me, it's just a bit creepy.  Or at least weird.  But maybe that's just me.

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bdef
Jul. 30th, 2012 02:13 am (UTC)
You guys are always a laugh. Thanks for the continued posts. GRRM is an easy target, but still fun to puncture.
adam_s216
Jul. 30th, 2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
It's not just that a lot of it is weird
Some of it is also unnecessary. What was the point of the 3 page Asha sex scene in AFFC with some guy who we'd never heard of and we'd never hear about again? Was it really important to mention what was trickling down Asha's thigh afterwards. I'm not a prude and have no problems with sex, but if you're trying to tell a serious story it should be relevant to the plot, not gratuitous and exploitive. It wouldn't hurt to mention that to HBO either (yes we know Ros has nice breasts by now).
CholoJones
Apr. 17th, 2013 05:31 am (UTC)
Speaking of Creepy
More adults who can't handle reading descriptions of sexual intercourse. Are you actually virgins, or is just that you were raised by Mormons?
achuff23
May. 15th, 2014 08:57 pm (UTC)
George puts tremendous detail into a dozen nonessential subjects, like food and clothing, People only get upset about the sex because we live in a culture that thinks sex is icky and it grosses them out to hear about it. Does he put too much effort into detail? Maybe. Is the sexual detail because he's a pervert? No, he honestly finds sex to be an Important part of the character's life. How much of your life involves or is motivated by sex? For most people it's a large portion.
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